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	<title>Comments on: Choosing your CSS techniques</title>
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		<title>By: David Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 21:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hack free is (almost) always the way I will go and in fact it is only my latest &lt;a href=&quot;http://scrambledheads.co.uk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;design &lt;/a&gt; when I exhausted every other avenue for a &#039;fix&#039; that I had to add a condtional comment (still IMO) a hack, but that involved a peculier IE Bug I haven&#039;t seen/couldn&#039;t find documented involving &#039;backwards Inheritance&#039;. I have to say it broke my heart :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hack free is (almost) always the way I will go and in fact it is only my latest <a href="http://scrambledheads.co.uk" rel="nofollow">design </a> when I exhausted every other avenue for a &#8216;fix&#8217; that I had to add a condtional comment (still IMO) a hack, but that involved a peculier IE Bug I haven&#8217;t seen/couldn&#8217;t find documented involving &#8216;backwards Inheritance&#8217;. I have to say it broke my heart <img src='http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Blair Millen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blair Millen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you in terms of avoiding CSS hacks. When I convert a Photoshop mockup into HTML and CSS I always keep the CSS very simple to ensure that the site works ok in IE6. And, like Simon Willison, I&#039;d rather add in some redundant markup if it means the layout works across all browsers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you in terms of avoiding CSS hacks. When I convert a Photoshop mockup into HTML and CSS I always keep the CSS very simple to ensure that the site works ok in IE6. And, like Simon Willison, I&#8217;d rather add in some redundant markup if it means the layout works across all browsers.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin Diaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin Diaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 02:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I go with the method that isn&#039;t too hackish, not too bulky, and not way overly complex. Most of the time &quot;zoom:1&quot; tends to fix my IE6 problems - and I don&#039;t feel bad whatsoever for using it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I go with the method that isn&#8217;t too hackish, not too bulky, and not way overly complex. Most of the time &#8220;zoom:1&#8243; tends to fix my IE6 problems &#8211; and I don&#8217;t feel bad whatsoever for using it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 13:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, and I think it is interesting to get other people ideas about how and why they choose to do things in a certain way.

Currently I&#039;m with you in that I&#039;d much rather add the extra div to clear the float, than hack my CSS. 

One other place I have found conflicting methods is in supporting the min- and max- properties that IE doesn&#039;t support.  Currently I am using expressions but I have also tried the box hack method, javascript methods.  I&#039;d be interested in what thoughts people have on this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, and I think it is interesting to get other people ideas about how and why they choose to do things in a certain way.</p>
<p>Currently I&#8217;m with you in that I&#8217;d much rather add the extra div to clear the float, than hack my CSS. </p>
<p>One other place I have found conflicting methods is in supporting the min- and max- properties that IE doesn&#8217;t support.  Currently I am using expressions but I have also tried the box hack method, javascript methods.  I&#8217;d be interested in what thoughts people have on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Balakumar Muthu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balakumar Muthu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good reading thank you :)!!

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Balakumar Muthuhttp://i5bala.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good reading thank you <img src='http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> !!</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
Balakumar Muthuhttp://i5bala.blogspot.com</p>
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		<title>By: mearso</title>
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		<dc:creator>mearso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I struggle to decide on a method, adn I think that part of that is that I leave myself in the dark about why and sometimes what method to achieve something I&#039;m using.

After the @media presentation I&#039;ve resolved to comment better, and I&#039;m hoping that process will make my reasoning more transparent to me, never mind my co-workers.

btw I&#039;ve done a little drawing of the presentation - It works as notes for me.

Seeing as I&#039;ve drawn you rachel It&#039;s rude not to let you know.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mearso.com/journal/strategic-css-managment&quot; title=&quot;link to article on mearso.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Managing CSS&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I struggle to decide on a method, adn I think that part of that is that I leave myself in the dark about why and sometimes what method to achieve something I&#8217;m using.</p>
<p>After the @media presentation I&#8217;ve resolved to comment better, and I&#8217;m hoping that process will make my reasoning more transparent to me, never mind my co-workers.</p>
<p>btw I&#8217;ve done a little drawing of the presentation &#8211; It works as notes for me.</p>
<p>Seeing as I&#8217;ve drawn you rachel It&#8217;s rude not to let you know.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mearso.com/journal/strategic-css-managment" title="link to article on mearso.com" rel="nofollow">Managing CSS</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean Fraser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful article. It seems that I couldn&#039;t lurk about forever.

I would for client sites say that most of my CSS &lt;i&gt;hacks&lt;/i&gt; are the use of redundant elements, e.g., two floated divs wrapped in a third div. Between clients CSS knowledge level, CMS constraints, validation requirements and client-specified design, redundant elements are most effective.

I don&#039;t understand the Semantic Temperance League when they state that extra divisions or extra spans lead one to structure rather than presentation. Or, since we have CSS3, one no longer requires extra spans for certain typography effects.

All complicated CSS hacks have come back and bitten me on client sites after project completion and I&#039;ve gone away. That&#039;s why I no longer use them, e.g., clearfix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful article. It seems that I couldn&#8217;t lurk about forever.</p>
<p>I would for client sites say that most of my CSS <i>hacks</i> are the use of redundant elements, e.g., two floated divs wrapped in a third div. Between clients CSS knowledge level, CMS constraints, validation requirements and client-specified design, redundant elements are most effective.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand the Semantic Temperance League when they state that extra divisions or extra spans lead one to structure rather than presentation. Or, since we have CSS3, one no longer requires extra spans for certain typography effects.</p>
<p>All complicated CSS hacks have come back and bitten me on client sites after project completion and I&#8217;ve gone away. That&#8217;s why I no longer use them, e.g., clearfix.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I generally use my clearing elements for copyright data etc or for the &#039;end of page&#039; nav duplication if used - therefore, the clearing element is no longer redundant - this is of course only in the situation of multi-column layouts using floats etc but can usually be applied somewhere along the line.  Try thinking about how you can use your clearing elements rather than leave them empty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I generally use my clearing elements for copyright data etc or for the &#8216;end of page&#8217; nav duplication if used &#8211; therefore, the clearing element is no longer redundant &#8211; this is of course only in the situation of multi-column layouts using floats etc but can usually be applied somewhere along the line.  Try thinking about how you can use your clearing elements rather than leave them empty.</p>
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