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	<title>Comments on: We&#8217;re still looking for those women</title>
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		<title>By: Peter Hyde-Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/archives/2007/02/26/were-still-looking-for-those-women/comment-page-1/#comment-59883</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hyde-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 04:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a self-taught web &quot;hack&quot;, I simply like to hear what others do to continually raise their game. It&#039;s these snippets that help keep me streamlining, optimizing, standardizing, and learning. I guess what I am trying to say is, that if you know web development, and have kept up with and implemented its standards, it is useful and informative to talk about the process. Especially since that process is unique (to you).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a self-taught web &#8220;hack&#8221;, I simply like to hear what others do to continually raise their game. It&#8217;s these snippets that help keep me streamlining, optimizing, standardizing, and learning. I guess what I am trying to say is, that if you know web development, and have kept up with and implemented its standards, it is useful and informative to talk about the process. Especially since that process is unique (to you).</p>
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		<title>By: attack monkey</title>
		<link>http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/archives/2007/02/26/were-still-looking-for-those-women/comment-page-1/#comment-57482</link>
		<dc:creator>attack monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my female friends says the same thing about the games industry. She does a lot of high profile speaking at games conferences, but she says a lot of women who work in the industry (and there aren&#039;t that many of them) don&#039;t do it, for the same reasons as you outline above!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my female friends says the same thing about the games industry. She does a lot of high profile speaking at games conferences, but she says a lot of women who work in the industry (and there aren&#8217;t that many of them) don&#8217;t do it, for the same reasons as you outline above!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Budd</title>
		<link>http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/archives/2007/02/26/were-still-looking-for-those-women/comment-page-1/#comment-54775</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Budd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that you are coming at problems from the users perspective and explaining things in a way most developers can understand is exactly the reason why you should be talking at conferences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that you are coming at problems from the users perspective and explaining things in a way most developers can understand is exactly the reason why you should be talking at conferences.</p>
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		<title>By: Meriblog: Meri Williams&#8217; Weblog &#187; links for 2007-02-27</title>
		<link>http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/archives/2007/02/26/were-still-looking-for-those-women/comment-page-1/#comment-54346</link>
		<dc:creator>Meriblog: Meri Williams&#8217; Weblog &#187; links for 2007-02-27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this is rachelandrew.co.uk » We’re still looking for those women &#8220;Other than the logistical reasons I have described in other posts these are the real reasons why I don’t put myself forward to speak. When it comes down to it, I’m not all that sure what I have to offer to the sort of high profile conferences being d (tags: conferences gender diversity genderpolitics speakers selection selfselection) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this is rachelandrew.co.uk » We’re still looking for those women &#8220;Other than the logistical reasons I have described in other posts these are the real reasons why I don’t put myself forward to speak. When it comes down to it, I’m not all that sure what I have to offer to the sort of high profile conferences being d (tags: conferences gender diversity genderpolitics speakers selection selfselection) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Meri</title>
		<link>http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/archives/2007/02/26/were-still-looking-for-those-women/comment-page-1/#comment-54344</link>
		<dc:creator>Meri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops! &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.makemeaspeaker.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Make Me A Speaker!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops! <a href="http://www.makemeaspeaker.com/" rel="nofollow">Make Me A Speaker!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lea de Groot</title>
		<link>http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/archives/2007/02/26/were-still-looking-for-those-women/comment-page-1/#comment-54338</link>
		<dc:creator>Lea de Groot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Psst, the Make Me a Speaker link is broken :( )

Conference speaking is something that occurs to me occasionally, but then I have a good laugh at myself. I think of myself as one of the worker bea who is busy implementing all the snazzy solutions. In the unlikely event that I was asked to speak I would run around in circles with the question &#039;What could I speak *about*&#039; rather then &#039;OMG, I have to speak in public!!&#039; ;)
Topic would defeat me, rather than presentation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Psst, the Make Me a Speaker link is broken <img src='http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>Conference speaking is something that occurs to me occasionally, but then I have a good laugh at myself. I think of myself as one of the worker bea who is busy implementing all the snazzy solutions. In the unlikely event that I was asked to speak I would run around in circles with the question &#8216;What could I speak *about*&#8217; rather then &#8216;OMG, I have to speak in public!!&#8217; <img src='http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Topic would defeat me, rather than presentation.</p>
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		<title>By: Meri</title>
		<link>http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/archives/2007/02/26/were-still-looking-for-those-women/comment-page-1/#comment-54327</link>
		<dc:creator>Meri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you like the idea of established speakers mentoring others. It seems to have struck something of a chord and so I&#039;ve set up &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.makemeaspeaker&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Make Me A Speaker!&lt;/a&gt; as a place for people to offer to mentor others and to put themselves out there as someone keen to speak more and in need of some mentoring. Please pimp it if you like it :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you like the idea of established speakers mentoring others. It seems to have struck something of a chord and so I&#8217;ve set up <a href="http://www.makemeaspeaker" rel="nofollow">Make Me A Speaker!</a> as a place for people to offer to mentor others and to put themselves out there as someone keen to speak more and in need of some mentoring. Please pimp it if you like it <img src='http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Max Design - standards based web design, development and training &#187; Some links for light reading (28/2/07)</title>
		<link>http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/archives/2007/02/26/were-still-looking-for-those-women/comment-page-1/#comment-54303</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Design - standards based web design, development and training &#187; Some links for light reading (28/2/07)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We&#8217;re still looking for those women [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We&#8217;re still looking for those women [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly Blessing</title>
		<link>http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/archives/2007/02/26/were-still-looking-for-those-women/comment-page-1/#comment-54285</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimberly Blessing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing is, most of the men out there are also self-taught and struggle with the same issues we women developers face... it&#039;s just that they&#039;re more vocal and more self-congratulatory about every little hurdle they figure out a way around.

More than once, when teaching CSS techniques, I&#039;ve had someone say, &quot;Oh that&#039;s [insert male name here]&#039;s solution.&quot; And my response has varied from &quot;Yeah, whatever,&quot; to &quot;And I&#039;m sure about a hundred other developers discovered the same thing for themselves at some point.&quot;

Meri and others are spot on when it comes to the need to mentor and encourage other women. Beyond that, it&#039;s probably a matter of finding time to be self-congratulatory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is, most of the men out there are also self-taught and struggle with the same issues we women developers face&#8230; it&#8217;s just that they&#8217;re more vocal and more self-congratulatory about every little hurdle they figure out a way around.</p>
<p>More than once, when teaching CSS techniques, I&#8217;ve had someone say, &#8220;Oh that&#8217;s [insert male name here]&#8217;s solution.&#8221; And my response has varied from &#8220;Yeah, whatever,&#8221; to &#8220;And I&#8217;m sure about a hundred other developers discovered the same thing for themselves at some point.&#8221;</p>
<p>Meri and others are spot on when it comes to the need to mentor and encourage other women. Beyond that, it&#8217;s probably a matter of finding time to be self-congratulatory.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/archives/2007/02/26/were-still-looking-for-those-women/comment-page-1/#comment-54257</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posed the question if, not said they are feeling that way. ;) 

But i think it boils down to a lot of facts and I for example do the same with my speaking appearances - I know a lot about many things but am not that guru in one special thing.

But I do feel comfortable for many reasons (main reason: I am done when I go on the conference) with my pre conference podcasts. I would assume there are more ways than just speaking on such events to get peoples attention. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posed the question if, not said they are feeling that way. <img src='http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>But i think it boils down to a lot of facts and I for example do the same with my speaking appearances &#8211; I know a lot about many things but am not that guru in one special thing.</p>
<p>But I do feel comfortable for many reasons (main reason: I am done when I go on the conference) with my pre conference podcasts. I would assume there are more ways than just speaking on such events to get peoples attention. <img src='http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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